Natalie is a travel and food writer who has been living in Rome, Italy since 2010. If you are working at the Vatican, but a resident of Rome (as most employees are) you would still need residency permission. Again, do not panic. When I arrived, I waited 2 hours, and then was told there was some problem and I had to come back the next day instead. Go figure. “cross” with a fifth arm expressing to Fiumicino airport. Offriamo informazioni sul permesso di soggiorno, cittadinanza, lavoro, studio e sull'immigrazione in generale. i from Turkey thats why no need to take visa to turkey just i have a problem for transportation to sofia. Thanks Natalie for quick reply. I want to make sure I have this correct. Once inside, you will go through a quick security screening. Can you apply for a “Permesso Di Soggiorno” if you are on a “Tourist Visa”? Is it a problem if I cannot go on that particular date? Please tell me will they freeze it if my husband don’t change ? Istruzioni per l'uso... Prenotazioni alberghiere - Preautorizzazioni, Come gestire i propri contributi e chiedere supporto, Sfoglia i 5.988 argomenti su questa destinazione: Discussione generale ». Thanks for the info! but still we havent received it and are planning to go for family reunification.Is it possible.plz reply. Thank you for this post! Good luck filling it out I have to redo mine soon. Sa qualcuno dire cosa comporta portare in questura un passaporto con la data di nascita diversa(anno giusto) per il rinnovo del permesso di soggiorno. I was wondering if you ever found out if it is possible to apply for renewal earlier than 60 days prior to expiry. This may result in Visa not getting back in time for her initial travel I would go ahead and apply now. I know that I only can be in Italy for 90 days. If so, won’t I need something in my passport (VISA) for when the German one expires? So it seems like your german residency should allow you to apply from there? Thanks in advance for any help! By the way many thanks for the blog. That’s right, it is called a “kit”. Will the permesso di soggiorno be the best option? This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Do you any article on how to get Certificato di idoneita alloggiativa from commune office. My fiance from Rome (Italian citizen) and i (US citizen) are planning our wedding in September. They will also ask you where you want to pick the permesso up, so be prepared to name a police station near your house. I also thought I would mention that waiting times probably vary on a number of factors, and I wouldn’t necessarily say they have been reduced in recent years. Thanks for all the great information, Natalie. Its been more than a month I have applied in Questura. The embassy can help with the visa and the codice fiscale. 01/02/2014 05:28 pm ET Updated Mar 04, 2014 I wait with them, under the first pink streaks of sunrise. Use re-entry Visa. your thoughts would be appreciated. This is a stamp with a monetary value that they will affix to one of the forms at the post office. I read through them all and didn’t find an answer to mine, which is: I am an American citizen arriving Oct. 2nd in Rome with a student visa, but I made plans to travel to Greece for ten days immediately after arriving in Rome (actually the next day, but likely not enough time to apply for the permesso). Applying for a student Visa – must take language classes = 20 hr/week A traveling companion and I are planning to go to Italy for a 6 week art course in Florence. I am a citizen of the U.S.A. Hi, Even if you are child of American citizens and you are more than 21 years old . And this process is repeatable how many times? Enjoy the culture shock! Anyway thanks for all the articles. There should be an option for this when you apply at the post office (and it is a lower price than the year). I have just 45 days schengen visa.i want to live in europe. Hi my name is fred me and my wife was married in austria am Nigeria my wife is Austrian when I wen to post the kit I put my international marriage certificate that was translated and approved but when I got to qestura on my appointment day the polizia didnt collect my international marriage certificate that was translated and approved he then na collected the international marriage certificate like that because he said is already valid in all countries and I was finger printed hope is not a problem.thanks, Hi, thanks for sharing this information. It is the visa terms that are converted into the permesso. Thanks for this information. That makes things much more clear for me. In that case, you will also still have a valid Schengen visa in your passport for any trips. 1. 16. I don’t speak Italian and was so confused. It’s normal practice among the Chinese that with young daughter mum goes too to ensure daughter is ok. I’m presently sorting out a Schengen visa for my wife, that she’s allowed being married to me, I plan to resume my teaching work on-line from where we will live so of course need sort out Codice Fiscale. Hello Tracy! Your permesso is tied to your type of visa. I’m moving to Rome with my soon-to-be-husband. It is the visa that is converted into permesso di soggiorno. Once you have a PdS, you don’t have to keep going through the visa process, but you do need a visa issued by a consulate for your first PdS. Hi, do you still need one of these if you work for the UN in Rome, Italy? Also, can we apply for jobs without the residency permit? I understand that one needs a non-tourist visa first before applying for a permesso. Do not lose these. Hi Natalie, Central Train station is a disaster of human depravity. The Rome questura has vastly improved and now has screens that will flash your name and the number of the desk you are meant to approach when it is finally your turn. We don’t plan on staying in one place for long enough to do the application, have an iterview and so on. Exactly – I would find the minimum insurance you are comfortable with and then apply for the SSN once you have the PdS. Best regards! as I also 3-year valid multiple entries visa but 90 days . Do you know if it’s a problem to pick the residence permit after the date they send in the SMS? I don’t think that is an issue at all. I submitted the necessary documents to the Italian Consulate in my state of residence to reacquire my Italian Citizenship which they accepted and received a stamped “DICHIARAZIONE DI RIACQUISTO DELLA CITTADINANZA ITALIANA”. This posting of yours helps a ton! Will a permesso di soggiorno allow me to stay longer than three months in the Schengen zone? It shouldn’t be, but I’m not sure! It is housing suitability certificate required for dependent Visa. Oh, and I do have one quick question. Hi Sophia! Your post – especially the pictures – was the most helpful thing I found to help me feel ready. Can I go the next day and check? Sorry how are you guy’s doing, can you travel with your six months permes di sigorrn by flight with your home country passport??? I asked the questura who said I could just leave with my passport, but I wanted to ask whether or not the border control asks for proof of permit when leaving the Schengen area. You should be able to use the receipt from the post office to apply for work. I’m in US holder and I’m in Italy and I’m applying for permesso but I no one want hire me or give me contract before I get my permesso, also is it easy for Americans to get the permesso in italy. When we travel to Beijing to the visa office we then head to embassy and ask about codice fiscale and I will make contact with embassy before we go to Beijing. Anyways, this post is super helpful and I’ve been reading it over and over in preparation for my questura appointment later this month. Haha. Also, does anyone know about getting a passport stamped in San Marino (non-Schengen) and using that method as a way to stay in Italy for longer than the 90 days? Anyways, make sure you take the right kind of number. It is possible to apply for the Pemesso di Soggiorno for stay more than 90 days? You can be in Italy as an American (and many other country citizens) for 90 days in a 180 period. Hi Natalie ! Obviously it would help with the paperwork to have a job in the city, but tell me– Is it possible to move to Rome without marrying an Italian or having employment already lined up? Am I allowed to go to Spain directly, with only my PDS application receipt, passport, and current Italian visa? I do not know about that one. I forgot to mention – it should be fine to other Schengen countries. That might be something to keep in mind if you want more permanent work. So basically I had my appointment and everything and went to pick it up with my receipt and passport (like the people at the immigration told me to have when I go and pick it up) and then they are telling me I need to have photocopies of the passport of the person’s house I am living in, copies of my passport, and a form filled out by the person I am staying with? I’m wondering about my own situation, which is that I simply want to live in Italy more than 90 days (tourism is the closest category, I suppose), but not to work in Italy. I’m so glad that the blog is helpful! A list of these is available on the Poste Italia website. I am in the US and want to move to Italy to work as an English teacher (I am US and TEFL certified). 2) Assuming that the semester will begin in the later half of September, when would you recommend arriving in Italy that will give me enough time to find a place to stay? Hi Natalie, I have come to Italy through a Family Reunion Visa and I have applied for my PSD but I have a single entry visa can I come back to Italy to collect my PSD with my post office receipt? I’m making it sound like I’m looking to be a total loafer or Cosmo Kramer in Italy (I’m not, I promise! I’m a political asylum in italy recently get permisso di soggiorno .can i work with it ? It’s not possible to arrive as a tourist and then apply for a PdS. Couldn’t do it. Are you saying that this would be impossible and that you 100% need a visa? Thanks for your article, can i apply for permesso without “the real” address ? Hi Sam! For student visas, you can work 20 hours/week and you can look for that work once you get here. Other sites say that once I have a PdS I can use the Italian national health system.While these statements are not contradictory I would guess that the latter is too good to be true, is it? How can i live in europe?????? I owe you big!!! But someone advised me to go directly to the office in Rebbibia and personally request. It is more difficult to change the application appointment, but you can collect it almost any time after it is ready. I am trying to find out how i can stay in Rome pass the 3 month visa. Vediamo insieme le differenze tra carta di soggiorno e permesso di soggiorno. Excellent! That is fine – they will keep it for you at the station near your home. Leaving Italy does not reset your time, but what it does do is give you those extra days. The application date is assigned, but not usually the pickup date. Also why am I nervous?! Usually, they will throw all the paper away when you have your actual appointment, but sometimes they scowl if you try to put in only the picture and visa pages. Gah! More information is available on the Portale Immigrazione in Italian. Hi Emily – so glad you found the blog useful. Do you have only a residency certificate? The PLIDA certificate for level A2 or above is valid for the issue of a long term residence permit (permesso di soggiorno). Are you qualified to answer the questions? Can I travel in and out of Italy while the application is being processed ?? Garbatella is on Metro Line B – a few stops on from Colosseo. Wish I had a book. Permesso Di Soggiorno In Italy the temporary residence permit (Permesso di Soggiorno) is controlled by the Polizia di Stato, who are under the tutelage of the Ministry of the Interior. Hi Natalie – best info I have been able to find – so thank you. If yes please let me know the same. Thank you in advance. Hi Emaan! For work permit how long may i wait ? One of these was a letter from my landlord saying I had permission to live in the house. 12. Permessodisoggiorno.org, Roma. They might offer something ‘in nero’ or under the table, but that will likely be low wages and might get you both in trouble. Firstly, awesome overview! Katie. Include a copy of your contract. Will that be a problem? Should we make a re-entry Visa.And when Thank you. Permesso di soggiorno is a document that the Italian state demands of all foreign citizens, that is citizens of countries that are not part of the European Union (EU). He on the other hand entered the country as a basic tourist (I.e without having applied for a visa prior to entering Italy or leaving the U.S.) so applying for a PdS within Italy is a good idea? Permesso per motivi umanitari, correzione di rotta dopo l’abrogazione del Decreto Salvini. I think I waited two months for the my first appointment in 2010, but the most recent wait between application and appointment was only about 3 weeks this time around. but i want to be sure about that with receipt from post office, can i go to sofia or not. Carta prepagata e Prenotazioni alberghiere. My question is this: what do I have to do to prove this? I realize I must register with PdS within 8 days of arrival – so will follow your steps above – the catch is the health insurance – will a long term travel insurance policy covering medical and emergency evacuation be suitable – since it appears I cannot apply for a voluntary SSN without the PdS? Previously I was in chicago for years and now shifted to Turin here for work and may stay some years here. Your email address will not be published. I am thinking cover for self, wife (daughter I need understand that situ re her Art University in Rome), what would be good ideas? Plus photos! It’s not even the first time I’ve had to do this (semi-regular sabbaticals) but it is still a huge mental burden. Hi Daniel! Hi Natalie, first off GREAT site! I’ll be in Milan so I hope things aren’t too different – I’ve heard mixed things about whether you go first to the post office or first to the Questura. Thanks for all the info- super helpful! Should I start worrying? You can check with your protocol office. Thanks for your help! I would like to make a few weekend trips outside of Italy if possible; however, it seems that it takes forever to receive it. you enter the country as a tourist and then apply right? The officers will call your time and have you line up, but they will likely be running behind schedule. Happy planning! You can also get the Codice Fiscale in Italy after you arrive, however it may be easier to do at the Embassy if they have appointments. We use a re-entry Visa can we come to your Can one travel to other Schengen countries while the permesso di soggiorno is being processed? Do you think it would raise eyebrows if I just put the name of a hostel? Thanks? Or did you receive a 10 year carta di soggiorno? To be frank I am Indian and just moved to Italy. The time to be ” legal ” in this country is absolutely too much . Hi Beatrice! It must be requested by the immigrant to be allowed to reside in the country for more than eight days, or more than ninety days […] 1. Or this 90 days has a;ready expired once I stepped in the Schengen Area, which is almost 1 year before…. I’m curiously about the PdS. I’m retired military and usually fly in and out of Germany. Thank you so much for the reply. So after many phone calls, my kit may either be lost or in a different questura—Im still in the process of locating it. It is really useful for me. Worst case scenario, they also have these photo machines at the main Rome quester. I’ve read all the blogs and can’t quite parse out which visa I need to begin the process with. Hi Natalie, thanks for your speedy response! There are chairs to sit in but wrap up if you are going in winter and bring water/a snack in case you are stuck outside for awhile. You would not qualify for national healthcare and so would have to prove that you are covered by private health insurance in order to apply for the visa/permesso. or at least I could go back to Italy to pick up my renew permesso after next monday (expiry date of my current permesso).
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